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Post by The Curmudgeon on Sept 30, 2009 22:14:02 GMT 2
You can always spot a rip-off. You know the feeling, you're sitting watching TV or whatever and something comes on and you get a small nagging doubt in your mind, like, "this is.. familiar." And then you notice something else about them that's familiar until you just KNOW you are in the presence of a rip-off. Consider, for example, two 80s video games. Rastan, a game about a Conan rip-off running around jungles and woods killing things with swords. Well, leave it to Taito to come up with a game about a Conan rip-off running around jungles and woods killing things with swords and calling it..  Nastar. Unbelievable. Just reverse the name and count the money. And how about WCW? After taking every other has-been from WWF, the logical conclusion to complete the set would be the Ultimate Warrior.  But what if you can't get him? Why, have Hogan say he has "The Ultimate Surprise" on TV, with a silhouette of a guy with long hair and tassels over his muscles, but then debut some loser called Renegade, who was the Warrior in everything but name.  This turned from funny to tragic when WCW would actually get the Ultimate Warrior, fire Renegade, and then Renegade would kill himself afterwards. Anyway, those are two obvious rip-offs that pretty much anyone with a clue would recognise. But what about rip-offs that actually got away with it? Here's a (pretty damn funny) list of the unoriginals.. www.cracked.com/article_17299_6-famous-characters-you-didnt-know-were-shameless-rip-offs.html |
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 1, 2009 11:45:22 GMT 2
Nearly every comic book character is a rip-off of another comic book character. I thought it was common knowledge that Lion King was a Kimba clone. The Simpsons (I think it was) even referenced it. I just pissed away a whole hour on that site reading the funniest lists ever. I hope you're happy.
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Oct 1, 2009 13:34:08 GMT 2
Disney also **ahem** "borrowed" many a thing from THE THIEF AND THE COBBLER for ALADDIN....besides, it's no stranger from "borrowing" as you can see here:
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 1, 2009 20:01:42 GMT 2
That video is jaw-dropping, Wolfman. At least they were only stealing from themselves there. More like recycling, really.
Here's one. How about the drill sergeant in "An Officer and a Gentleman"? Didn't he seem an awful lot like the DS from Full Metal Jacket?
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 4, 2009 14:43:05 GMT 2
Wolfy - again another "we are actually the same person" moment. I was going to post the EXACT same video when I first got back from Florida, but I didn't want to make this the Official Disney Discussion Forum or something. Still a startling watch, though. Take THAT, childhood memories.
Actually, that's a lie. I don't really HAVE any childhood memories of Disney. I think I've seen only a handful of Disney movies, the rest just didn't even register with me. Never seen Bambi, Little Mermaid, Lion King, Pinocchio, Lady and the Tramp.. the last real (before Pixar steamrolled over them) Disney movie I watched was Alladin.
I haven't seen Officer and a Gentlemen (that's the "steers and queers" guy though, right?) but I can only imagine he's not as terrifying and hateful as the one in Full Metal. Did that movie start the archetype of "screaming in your face Sergeant"?
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 4, 2009 20:32:02 GMT 2
On film I believe it did. In "Officer" it was a really watered-down version but I remember him saying a lot of the same dialogue verbatim which irked me. Plus he turned out to be a nice guy in the end or some shit.
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Oct 6, 2009 4:23:16 GMT 2
Why not hammer Beyoncé up on this cross as well? Original Mexican Breakfast routine (sorry in advance for the shitty humor text at the bottom, it's the only video that maintains the original audio) Beyoncé's Single Ladies Mexican Breakfast with Single Ladies For the lazy ones that don't wanna view any of the other ones to make the comparison: Sorry Kanye, Imma letcha finish, but Beyoncé had one of the most UNORIGINAL RIPP-OFF videos of ALL-TIME!  For some explanation concerning IF I WERE A BOY as well as other examples where Beyoncé has "been inspired" by better individuals: |
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 6, 2009 14:36:09 GMT 2
 Wow. I did NOT know that about the Single Ladies vid. I've said for months now that vid is going to become an ultra-parodied modern classic. In a time when most pop videos come and go, that one really has burrowed into popular culture like seldom do nowadays. It's actually pretty depressing seeing that. Helluva scoop, Wolf. On that "Exposed!" vid... nyah, I dunno. Music has always been a cut-throat business, and if Beyonce's "people" were smart enough to spot a hit, well.. that's life, man. They didn't "steal" it, how well d'you think BJ OK or whatever her name was would have done with it? Beyonce recorded it and now that girl will be a millionaire, and how many doors will that open for her? Best thing that could've happened. As for the other live show examples.. meh. She probably has the same choreographers or whatever that Kylie had, and that MJ connection is weak at best (an angel? On stage? Aiiieeeee!) And why does EVERY idiot now have to start videos/songs with "it's your boy" (or in this case, girl). I've lost count of the unoriginal assholes who do this. I want to stab everyone of them in the throat with a fork. |
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Oct 6, 2009 17:04:57 GMT 2
I believe you missed the point. Of course she couldn't have gotten it off the ground without some help in some way. The point made was that Beyoncé ONLY offered to PAY for the song AFTER she recorded it AND was planning to release it...something His Royal Badness has also been guilty of. Can't be arsed to locate the article I read, but there was a specific case regarding a song off EMANCIPATION if I remember correctly that had him busy almost in the wee early hours of the album's release. The ONLY difference between him and Beyoncé is that at least His Purple Majesty has done SO much with making original music over the past years that he probably gets lost to think of all the places he's been jamming with the band and who came up with a groove or a line or who submitted what. The Kid has always had his finger in too many pies...literally. In this way, he can be at times forgiven for his slip-ups. "Prolific" is an minor term of jest to the depths of creation this man has been up to his ears in, and only those with Autism and stalking him daily could actually keep a consistent record of his days on Earth. About her other "copycatting," if you are a choreographer and the best you can come up with is a sexy female robot outfit that transforms so the singer can walk out on stage...shit, I'm in the wrong job!  |
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 6, 2009 20:16:09 GMT 2
If we're going to talk about musicians ripping other artists off we'll be here until the end of time. I say string em all up. Plagiarism is one of the worst things you can do to an artist of any kind.
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Post by Benjamin Haines on Oct 6, 2009 21:57:42 GMT 2
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 7, 2009 20:30:23 GMT 2
DC Comics, you should be ashamed!
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