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Post by The Curmudgeon on May 17, 2012 19:16:10 GMT 2
Any Fortress Dweller worth their salt will have two things; a wide, varied taste in all kinds of pursuits and hobbies, and a love for things that the great unwashed just don't understand.
So with that in mind, let's open up and reminisce about the stupid, ignorant, missed the point comments you've heard, read or received when discussing your favourite things.
I'll get the ball rolling first;
WWE:
An obvious one, but the amount of people who when they find out an adult male with all of his faculties still watches wrestling, ask me in a hushed, serious voice, "you.. know that's all fake, don't you?" NO! GET OUT! Really? Or I had a conversation with a guy a few weeks ago who said wrestlers were "pussies" because it was all fake, that the chairs they hit each other with were RUBBER and the ring was basically a trampoline. This conversation happened.
MUSIC:
Another infuriating exchange is when anything that's not bouncy, happy pop music is labelled "slit your wrist stuff". I hear this all the time, a few weeks ago aimed at a fucking Gorillaz song, all because Lou Reed was singing. Frankly, David Guetta's latest chart bilge with Nicki Minaj and Flo Rida has me feeling way more suicidal.
Anyway, you know where I'm going with this thread, and I'm sure you have your own examples. Advance.
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Post by trashcanman on May 17, 2012 23:17:52 GMT 2
Welcome to every day of my fucking life since grade school. One of my favorite recurring nightmare has to be saying you don't like metal because you can't understand the lyrics, but listening to groups with fucking moronic lyrics instead.  I always answer this with "If you want words, try reading a book!" Or of course there's people saying that it doesn't take any talent to scream, to which I say "Can YOU do that? Do you think your favorite singer can do that? You know what they call it when someone can do things most people can't? Talent." If not everybody could sing, there'd be no market for karaoke now, would there? But how many people can jump on a stage and fucking rock it like Corey Taylor for an hour and a half? If I try to one fucking verse, I can't talk for the rest of the day. People are just unbelievably stupid. |
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Post by Ben on May 18, 2012 8:47:09 GMT 2
Don't even get me going on the music shit. I'd wear my Megadeth Peace Sells shirt regularly back in high school and one day some kid says to me "man, how do you listen to that death metal shit? You can't even hear what they're saying."
Rather than explaining to him (and everyone else who has made a similar comment over the years) that metal is a complex genre, perhaps THE most complex genre, that consists of numerous subgenres, many of which utilize clean vocals which anyone can understand, I went Trashcanman's route. "I'd be bored as piss if listened to the same, bland, manufactured beat and dumb lyrics for hours straight."
I also had a friend back in the day who would constantly rag on any movie that didn't have enough action. Even more irritating, he would then judge any movie with "enough action" on how realistic it was. Apart from the latest Terminator movie, I think he left the theater bitching every time him and our buddies would go see a flick. Just awful.
Oh, and my personal favorite- the uppity "I don't need to drink to have fun" while I'm sucking on a beer. Neither do I, dummy; I just enjoy a good brew.
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Post by trashcanman on May 18, 2012 22:12:47 GMT 2
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Post by Ben on May 20, 2012 0:04:58 GMT 2
It's funny that you brought up smoking- I'm not a big smoker by any means, but I enjoy the occasional cigar and every once in awhile I'll bum a cigarette off someone. Last summer I was hanging out with some pals after I'd just got done working at a summer camp for 11 weeks and I started smoking a cigarette. One of the guys I was with had brought his new girlfriend along and she just tore me apart for like 5 minutes. "Ok, sorry, but... why would you ever smoke. It's so bad for you." I tried to explain to her that I don't smoke, I was just doing everything in my power to chill out after working with kids for 3 months straight. "Yeah, but... why do you smoke?" She wouldn't leave me alone until I told her that I just really like cancer.
Talking to the average person about music these days is one of my least favorite things in the world. One dude in my apartment building asked me the other day if I could recommend him some old school metal songs to look up. When I followed up to ask him what he thought of my recommendations he told me that it "took too long for the singing to start." My God in heaven.
Oh, and that second meme had me dying, Trashcanman.
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Post by trashcanman on May 20, 2012 21:12:51 GMT 2
"She wouldn't leave me alone until I told her that I just really like cancer" HA! That is the caption to a meme that hasn't been invented yet. [searches for appropriate picture] Liiiiiiike......"Clueless Yet Judgmental Girl"  Also, "too long for the singing to start"? That's a new one. I hope you told his ass what night American Idol's on. Here's your old school metal. pt.musicplayon.com/play?v=497386 |
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Post by Ben on May 22, 2012 9:06:29 GMT 2
I've never cringed so much hearing a Priest song. Did he really have to display the horns 35 seconds into the video? The face he made when he did it told me all I need to know- the guy is clueless. Glad I have no idea who he is.
Directing my neighbor to American Idol would have been the proper response, I'm sure, but based on our conversation regarding the Sabbath, the Ozzy, and the old school Metallica I told him to google, he's probably already a raging fan of the show. Besides, I honestly don't know what night or what time it's on.
I hope the people I know don't reflect the rest of America (or the world, for that matter), because I have to recoil into my shell whenever someone brings up music. Apart from a select few very good friends, everybody I know listens to the same trash, and the metal stereotypes never end. I get laughed at regularly when I tell people I like classical music, or people just stare in disbelief.
Worst of all, and as an aside I guess, I was thrown out of a local metal show about 2 months ago for moshing.
Let me say that again.
I was thrown out of a local METAL SHOW about 2 months ago for MOSHING. I can't even win with the people who should be on my side! Perhaps I paint too bleak a picture, but I'm not exaggerating intentionally; sometimes it really feels like I'm the "only one" not drooling over the top 40 and anything else that charts.
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Post by trashcanman on May 22, 2012 20:25:13 GMT 2
You are not the only one, but let me point out that it's called "underground" music for a reason. I've always been pretty alone in my tastes in art. Doesn't bug me much. I see the films, books, music, etc. that I like as pretty personal to me so if nobody else takes the time to enjoy them it's them that's missing out in my view. But I do have to say that my area is actually very punk/metal-centric so I really can't complain too much about that. Bands like Slipkot, classic Metallica, and The Misfits are pretty standard in Central California and we have a pretty cool local hardcore scene as well for such a rural and conservative area (McCain won this county handily). I can't imagine anybody getting tossed out of a local show for moshing. Then again, there's nobody around to really throw you out here since it's pretty much just fans and bands at these things. But were you like the only one? I can see tossing somebody if they were just running into groups of people shoving them around and throwing elbows at them and crap, but if there was an actual pit I don't see what the problem would be.
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Post by Ben on May 23, 2012 21:59:59 GMT 2
I don't care if people understand my taste or don't like what I like or whatever, I just grow tired of having no one to discuss/enjoy it with. Like today- I just picked up a new Havok EP and (coincidentally) a Priest album. I doubt anyone I know apart from my brother would be up for blasting them both for the rest of the night. Weeeeaaaaaak.
The concert situation is still very confusing to me. I went with 2 guys I know from class and we started a pit. Some people looked game, but the hardcore dancers intervened and took up the whole floor. We tried to clear them out and get a real pit going, they took offense. I got tossed for running into and shouldering the same kids who were kicking people (one of the guys I was with took a foot to the face; I'm sure THAT was accidental) and flailing their arms and elbows with the intent to injure. The bouncer told me I couldn't mosh because the other kids were getting pissed off at me... People are getting wholloped in the face and I get tossed for shoving the kids doing it? Ok. I've never heard of anything like it and still don't understand what the problem was.
I mean, I understand the idea that you don't wear a Slayer shirt to church, for example, because it'll just irritate everyone, but at a metal show the expectation is that everyone knows what they're getting into. If you're game enough to hardcore dance and hit people in the face, then you're telling me that you're game enough to get shoved around in a pit. But apparently that's not how it works. Luckily this show was an anomaly, because I've never had a similar experience at any other show, nor would I expect to.
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Post by trashcanman on May 23, 2012 22:16:04 GMT 2
God, I fucking hate hardcore dancing. I'd call it gay, but I don't hate gay people enough to go there. In my town, hardcore dancing puts you in a great situation to get beat the fuck down. If you kick or elbow somebody, they are well within their rights to hit you back. And again, there is no security to speak of at these shows so if you're going to go around spin-kicking and shit, you'd better watch where you are going. I don't really go to shows anymore so I don't know if it's a hardcore dancer's world now or what, but that shit is stupid.
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Post by Ben on May 27, 2012 10:59:43 GMT 2
You're preaching to the choir- where I come from, hardcore dancers get beat down. I've done my part in putting them down at various shows over the years, but apparently that doesn't fly at college, though. I can only assume the venue I was at was just a pussy venue; any other explanation (such as hardcore dancing increasing in popularity) would upset me too much.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on May 28, 2012 10:54:28 GMT 2
"Hardcore dancing" has got to be an American thing that hasn't been adopted over here (yet). I hate moshing, but when I go to gigs that have that sort of thing (in the past; Manson, Slipknot etc) then I stand at the side and let those crazy kids go at it. No fucking way should someone at a metal concert be thrown out for moshing. Jesus. Who was playing, that prick from the American Idol clip?
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