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Post by The Curmudgeon on Jun 7, 2012 20:33:58 GMT 2
So the Nintendo WUU or WiUU or whatever the hell it's calling itself is going to be soon upon us and.. damn. After reading the following article, I may well be treating it like the gaming equivalent of catching AIDS at a live X Factor show. www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-we-know-nintendo-has-lost-its-mind/Now, I've been reading up a little about the Wii U, and apparently it's Nintendo's goal to capture back the "core" gamers they lost with the Wii. Imagine losing core gamers when you cater almost exclusively to grannies, 4 year olds and groups of people who don't want to play games? Imagine losing core gamers when almost all of your titles are simplistic, "really, is this something you paid for?" Cooking Mama style pieces of shit that your shitty gimmicky controller could handle whilst PS3 and X Box got Arkham City. The fact that, even a few months ago they were still, fucking STILL advertising Wii Tennis and Mario Kart Wii on television speaks volumes. The Wii had about six good games, and those were two of them. So it's back to REAL games in HD. Bravo. Four years too fucking late, Nintendo, but you're the king of games so I'll give you a pass. But this Social Media infatuation really, REALLY has to stop. I get that Facebook and Twitter are the two biggest things in the world now, and that's fine. I actually like the fact if I get unlock a trophy it pops up on Facebook. But the stuff detailed in that article is frightening, and is NOT what gaming should be about. Some dick popping up asking "hEY, HoW R U?" just as you're facing off against the final boss? Not cool at all. And then there's that big stupid iPad thing as a controller and.. gaah. It seems Nintendo have thought, "hmm, the very easy to use Wii controls were too basic for hard core gamers. They need something needlessly fucking complicated." Could the Wii U join the Kinnect on the modern gaming scrapheap?
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Post by trashcanman on Jun 7, 2012 23:10:25 GMT 2
Kinect technology at least has fantastic potential, even if it's being used in a shitty, shitty way right now. But this WiiU shit can fuck right the fuck off. Goddamn it, Nintendo. I used to love you, man. I am not dealing with a fucking second controller. Not doing it. Who the fuck wants to play a video game and then have to put down the controller, pick up an iPad thingy, and dick around with menus and minigames and whatnot when you used to just be able to seamlessly do that in-game and onscreen and still can on every other system? Nobody? Correct! And a few hours battery life? Fuck me, man. I just want Nintendo to make a cutting-edge system with grown up games that are fun to play so I can love them again. Why is that too much to ask? No more gimmicks. I don't want them. No motion control until they can do it right, no fucking social media to interrupt me in the middle of a vital story moment, and no more games about jumping from one colorful platform to another. I'm done with this shit. Given that Sony has just patented tech that will make commercials that interrupt your game as you play it a thing because they haven't done enough to fuck their consumers over as it is, I'm rrrreeeeeaaaaallllyyyyy hoping Microsoft plays it safe. They've been the hardcore innovators of the last two gaming generations so if they don't overdo this Kinect thing....
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Jun 11, 2012 0:31:23 GMT 2
Bwa ha ha ha, that's the first time I've seen that Avengers footage. Holy SHIT that looks awful. In fact, I've yet to see a Kinnect game that doesn't look fucking abysmal. Have you seen the Hulk Hogan wrestling game for Kinnect? It's a sort of in-joke now for how truly terrible it actually is.
But yeah, I agree. All this gimmicky crap needs to END. Second controllers, motion sensor.. it just reminds me of all the terrible stuff they brought out in the 90's to try and get kids to buy shit. Remember the Mega CD? (Don't actually know what it was called in the US)? Or that bazooka thing for the SNES?
Nintendo - you are the fucking KING of video games. You don't need this shit. No joke, the 2 Mario Galaxy games had more legit NEW ideas and innovation than pretty much any other game I've played in 10 years. Where are THOSE developers?
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Post by trashcanman on Jun 11, 2012 20:24:27 GMT 2
Ninetendo is that developer. Unfortunately they are perpetually bogged down in Zelda, Mario, Metroid, SSB, and the like so new properties aren't something they have time for. And I don't want to buy a system that only comes out with a few games a year that I want to play, especially when said games need to remain 100% kid-friendly. Yeah, I was super-pumped to hear about a new Avengers game. I was expecting a new Ultimate Alliance-style action-RPG and then I fired up some E3 footage of it and....well, that Vader image pretty much said it all. Goddamn it. First a Star Wars game about Han Solo dancing, and now an Avengers fighting game where all you can do is stand 20 feet apart and fling your arms around trying to throw rocks and shit. Stop it, Microsoft. Even Sony had enough sense to stop pushing that stupid magic wand thing of theirs once it was clear that every non-Nintendo motion control game this gen is going to suck. Shelve that stupid device until you can make it do something worth doing...something at least as much fun as games without motion control.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Jun 12, 2012 17:23:18 GMT 2
Oh man, I had legit forgotten all about those stupid PS3 wand things. Man, those things just vanished in about two months. What an enormous waste of time and money.
All of this motion detection shit, to me, is NOT what gaming is about. As much as it makes me sound like some angry loner (who, me?), gaming has, and always will be, at its best when you're sitting in a comfortable chair, large cool drink in front of you, and you're involved and engrossed in the story and the world. I don't care if it's some super realistic FPS or some fantasy world like Mario. Sitting playing a game, hopelessly addicted, thinking "I fucking NEED to collect the last Gold Star Coin" or whatever - THAT is gaming. These stupid instant gratification "jump! Punch! Kick the air" pieces of shit are worthless.
I need to ask - what IS that fucking awful Han Solo thing? I first saw it on a discussion board in someones sig and I figured it was something the guy had done himself, but it actually looks real. What the hell is it? Why is it?
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Post by trashcanman on Jun 12, 2012 20:38:53 GMT 2
It is Star Wars Kinect. A bunch of shallow-looking minigames that could have been awesome if they didn't suck. There's stuff like a game where you swing a lightsaber around but can't move on your own, one where you control a rancor and you can claw at stuff, some racing games, and that dance jam thing, which was the last straw for many a Star Wars fan. Here's the trailer. www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRtZ5SqKPmINow none of those things are terrible ideas, but as you can see, the execution is not so much good. Even the dance thing could be fun, but if it's going to force you to only do certain moves, it just ain't fun. I want to make Chewbacca do The Worm. Now that shit would be fun. When they can make a game that let's you make the character do whatever you want instead of being limited to a few canned animations, Kinect tech may be worth it. But until then, I really don't see the point. The opening to this review pretty much says it all. www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-BGYxHbfwU&feature=relmfu
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Post by Quillford on Jun 12, 2012 21:35:42 GMT 2
Wii U looks to be awesome. Anything for an HD Zelda and a possibility of a non hand held free roam Pokemon game (like the ones on the gameboy) also in HD. It should be fantastic. I think the Ipad controllers will be awesome myself - a new thing to get used to. But thank FUCK we are moving further away from that arm tiring shite that was introduced with this Wii. However FB can fuck off - I think implementing this even further makes me want to vomit broken glass.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Jun 19, 2012 12:34:58 GMT 2
I dunno, I guess we'll see. It just looks to be gimmicky for gimmick's sake, like, "we fucking HAVE to do something new and different. How about the controller you use can do separate things at the same time? Sold!"
Way too early to tell yet, but it just doesn't look like something I'd ever want to play. Especially if they're still trying to sell you older games like Batman.
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Post by trashcanman on Jun 19, 2012 21:33:34 GMT 2
I want awesome games. That is all. That and only that will decide what I buy. Gimmickry does nothing at all for me.
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Post by trashcanman on Jul 2, 2012 22:17:31 GMT 2
Here's an interesting article with some pretty incendiary remarks from the Nintendo camp: www.craveonline.com/gaming/articles/191307-dont-blame-us-for-your-f-up-nintendoSo his complaint is that gamers want more? Really? If I'm a business, and somebody hands me millions of dollars and says "what else can I buy from you?", I'm chalking that up as a win. How despicably lazy is this company that they see consumers requesting more from them as a pain in the ass? At this point, Nintendo needs to be happy that they've retained any serious gamers in their fanbase because they've done a lot to alienate us this generation.
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