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Post by trashcanman on Oct 21, 2013 22:46:25 GMT 2
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 23, 2013 22:34:30 GMT 2
My ex brother in law is a dance DJ, responsible for this Dylan bothering classic. www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB2VheohqkcI can't find the original version (funnily enough, I don't own it). Awful shit, of course. I remember being invited to a VIP dance club, full of dancing, spaced out posers and complete pricks dancing to the worst, most pathetic point and click bullshit all "performed" by my brother in law, who stood in his booth turning a fucking volume button up and down. Terrible. I'm not a music purist by any stretch of the imagination, and dance music - let me stress that second word - can be great. But this article is completley right; I don't know if this generation's music fans have had their expectations lowered so much, by terrible bands and cheap X Factor pop that they accept this sort of thing as a "live music festival", but I've seen it with my own eyes. At T in the Park, talentless bottom feeders like Niki Minaj come on (late), mime to a backing track and still get cheered. It's exactly the same thing here. Play them the songs they know, flash a few lights in the sky and boom, happy audience who don't know any better. I don't know if it's just dance music in general, or if it's even got anything to do with how many substances are consumed beforehand, but yeah, I've definitley noticed that really not very talented at ALL musicians and pricks pressing buttons on laptops are suddenly heralded as "amazing." Always reminds me of a Prince quote from a live bootleg I have. "Don't you let anybody come up here with a DAT! You make them PLAY THEIR INSTRUMENTS, if they ain't funky you boo them off the stage!" That was about 15 years ago. Things are much, much worse.
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Mrs_C
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Post by Mrs_C on Nov 1, 2013 23:02:02 GMT 2
I feel I need to weigh in here... I am bit of a fan of dance music in general and love it when it is done right. Now playing live thesedays is a tricky thing for DJs They write and produce their music completely on comuters like macbooks and laptops. So how does a Dj perform this? I mean they cant be expected to play the song live they have combined the track completley on a computer so yes I do agree with them using using laptops and computers on stage to a certain extent... I do not condone them just standing their twiddling a volume knob and fist punching the air...a'la david Guetta. I have seen both Calvin Harris and Deadmau5 live. Both use Laptops both use computers but they also spend a great deal of time on making it not just about the music that they play as they have to use a backing track for the majority of the show (as alot of tracks have too many guest artists which they could not possibly get to come on tour with them) so they need to make the show an "experience" Deadmau5 Has his Mau5 heads and big DJ cube and led screens with animation going on behind him with lasers, some guests and basically an audio visual experience. Calvin went down the lasers and pyro route but he also chats to the audience in between tracks and not only does his own tracks (which there are too many to even count) he also does some clever remixes and there are little gaps between tracks which makes you feel like your on a ride with your senses. So In summery I feel that with dance acts it is easy to be lazy but when doen correctly Laptops and macbooks being used (and hidden) are not a bad thing and are more and more a neccessity.
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Post by trashcanman on Nov 1, 2013 23:07:47 GMT 2
That's doable. I'm old school in that I like a DJ who's there cutting and performing with turntables and whatnot, and I find that pretty mesmerizing, but I see that obviously a lot of that art is going away in favor of convenient technology that takes the physical skill away from DJing. It's inevitable. Making a great record on a computer is one thing, but a live performance should be about more than listening to the same fucking tracks while just being in the presence off the guy who made them. I like the idea of making it a real show like that Deadmau5 setup. That I can kind of get behind. At least it's something you can;t get on the record.
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