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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 12, 2007 16:01:16 GMT 2
NOTE: EXTREMELY HIGH NERD ALERT ON THIS THREAD.It is time. Time for WAR. Oh yes, forget any previous universe crossing scraps they've had in the past, because THIS is the one that's going to count. The Marvel Universe is taking on the DC Universe - and here's how its going to work. We'll start with two figures, one from both worlds and then WE decide who would win. In a perfect world, I would have them all as "polls" so votes could be counted, but then I would end up taking up this entire section. This will work fine anyway. So, after suitable discussion (or until the thread gets no more comments), another fight will be introduced and the discussion can start again. So, there is a possibility this thread could go on for years. Or, hey, days even. So - the first battle commences...... NOW!  Green Arrow (DC) vs  Hawkeye (Marvel) .
Instead of going straight into the major league big hitters, I thought we'd start with two suitably matched archers. DC's ultra rich playboy Bruc.. sorry, Oliver Queen vs Marvel's bad boy Avenger (and Thunderbolt) with a heart, Hawkeye. Both are superb shots, both have specially designed arrows that explode, hook onto walls etc, but I'm going to have to go with Ollie Queen on this one. As much as I love Hawkeye, the Green Arrow's been doing this for twenty more years than he has (first debuted in 1941, dontcha know?) Round one, in my opinion, goes to DC. But its up to YOU, too. Who wins this round....?
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 13, 2007 9:34:13 GMT 2
That cheesy Robin Hood gettup isn't doing Arrow any favors. I'll call it a draw since Arrow gets the coolest chick (Black Canary, pun intended), but Hawkeye just looks so much more badass. Sure, Hawkeye got with ultra-vixen Black Widow, but she always love 'em then leaves 'em, doesn't she? Hawkeye versus Green Arrow in a fight? Well, the two are essentially the same character skillwise so still a draw as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 17, 2007 12:54:44 GMT 2
Yeah, its kinda hard to take Arrow seriously when he's running around in that. Smallville (which has been pretty much brilliant this season) made him look a little better..  and at least he didn't have the crappy beard. |
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 18, 2007 11:48:25 GMT 2
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 18, 2007 12:40:34 GMT 2
Catwoman doesn't look that different (she's had those stupid goggle things for a while now) and The Riddler looks like Mariyn Manson. WTF is going on with the Joker though - he looks like some drug induced nightmare. Who's the guy in grey? Mr Freeze?
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 21, 2007 21:13:47 GMT 2
Yeah, that's Freeze. The Riddler's goth makeover is definitely of the WTF variety, and Joker looks like a hobbit maestro gone horribly wrong. You also can't appreciate how freakin' HUGE Catwoman's ears look on the cartoon from that pic. It's a good show, though, and it has the coolest Batgirl ever if nothing else going for it.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 22, 2007 9:59:58 GMT 2
OK, it doesn't look like we'll be getting anymore votes on Hawkeye v Arrow (maybe archers don't cut it for others) so we'll move to the next round for now (although we can always go back).  The Sub-Mariner (Marvel) vs  Aquaman (DC)You know, its reading the history of these characters (on Wikipedia, natch) that makes me realise how genuinely superior Marvel comics really are. For one, they didn't tie themselves up in continuity knots trying to explain how characters can be the same age for forty years (Marvel explained it basically saying "if the comic says 'five years ago' it means 'five years before you read this" wheras DC created Earth One and Earth Two, eliminated entire characters (including Aquaman, who had been going since the early forties) and tried to re-write their entire back catalogue. What a mess by a bunch of IDIOTS. Anyway, if it were to go on looks alone Sub-Mariner would win hands down, as his timeless underpants, Spock ears, The Rock eyebrows and, um, wings on his ankles (?) look has never changed, whilst Aquaman's hasn't changed much either - it's always looked timelessly shit. Orange and green - what not a look. And if we're talking stories - Aquaman's is unsurprisingly all over the place and downright stupid (hey, it is DC, right?) with retcon's and new characters (Aqualad?!) and animal sidekicks (Topo the pet octopus anyone?). Sub-Mariner, on the other hand, is one of the first ever superheroes (created in 1939) and one of the first genuine anti-heroes, with a forever relevant theme of the dangers of pollution etc, to which Sub-Mariner hates mankind (but still protects us). Due to his being an immortal, his story can actually date back to the 40's, as a recent "Invaders" story showed, where they referenced events and characters from the very first comics and still made it relevant and even (sort of, obviously) realistic. Read and learn, DC. And as for characters - Sub-Mariner is an absolute bad-ass. An arrogant prince who has teamed up with heroes and villains over the years. And Aquaman has always been seen as something of a joke in pop culture (to quote The Rock, "Aquaman - yeah, the dude that talks to the fish!") Winner - hands down - is Sub-Mariner. |
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 23, 2007 9:38:23 GMT 2
Aquaman is typically referred to by we merciless internet denizens as Aquafag these days. Childish? Of course, but is there a lamer mainstream superhero? Methinks nay. He did receive a makeover -at least in animated form- via the awesome "Justice League" series that was a massive improvement on his old outfit, however.  But you can't mess with Namor. There is no contest, really. Namor can fly whereas Aquaman's nothing special out of the water so all Namor has to do is grab him and take him up and out of the water where he is still a badass and he's got him cold. |
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 23, 2007 10:58:13 GMT 2
Aquafag - awesome. I'd never heard that one before.
That new hand he's got in your pictur is just all kinds of impractical though, isn't it? How the hell does he swim so fast with that thing?
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Oct 23, 2007 12:15:52 GMT 2
Yeah!!!  I've always wondered why superhereos are able to do all these things that are virtually impossible for us mere mortals to even....   ;D  |
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 23, 2007 19:53:16 GMT 2
Hey, I'm all for suspension of disbelief. Peter Parker gets bit by a spider so he can walk on walls and somehow have some sort of psychic sixth sense? Fine by me. But that dumb thing on Aquaman's hand? Stupid. Reminds me of the Grim Reaper from the Avenger's comic..  I mean - seriously. How could you do anything with that thing? |
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Oct 23, 2007 20:28:03 GMT 2
My thoughts exactly! ;D Boy oh boy, Curmy...this ISN'T your lucky day.  |
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 23, 2007 21:33:11 GMT 2
Tchoh. Damn it all...  There. Him. Look. His hand.. ah, jokes ruined. (Insert Muttley complaining voice). |
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 24, 2007 4:34:58 GMT 2
Hey, I'm all for suspension of disbelief. Peter Parker gets bit by a spider so he can walk on walls and somehow have some sort of psychic sixth sense? Fine by me. But that dumb thing on Aquaman's hand? Stupid. Reminds me of the Grim Reaper from the Avenger's comic.. I mean - seriously. How could you do anything with that thing? If you like that, my friend, than you'll REALLY like this. youtube.com/watch?v=Zjp0BWYmE24 |
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Oct 24, 2007 20:33:48 GMT 2
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I've always wondered why superhereos are able to do all these things that are virtually impossible for us mere mortals to even....
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That clip made me realize two things:
