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Post by The Curmudgeon on May 8, 2008 1:08:27 GMT 2
Jump all over this CD.Dear God, what did we do to deserve Scooter? What terrible deed has modern man committed to bring on this terrible wrath; an onslaught from a band that, by all that is good and holy, should surely have been a one-hit wonder, but instead have survived and bombarded us with track after track that ALL SOUND THE SAME. Let me explain, to those blessed few who have escaped the tone-deaf dirge that is a Scooter song. Scooter are, shudder, a German techno band, and there are basically two songs that this lot have (if you don't count the unintentional hilarity of the slow "rock" song "I Was Made For Loving You Baby", where the singer walks around with a guitar, pretending he even knows what one is. He might as well be carrying a surf board). Anyway, there is the Standard Scooter Song - that being a repetitive, heavy beat with the singer basically shouting random things for three minutes. Then there is the Sampled Scooter Song (something that has seen them gain some success in the UK), and that is a repetitive, heavy beat with the singer basically shouting random things... with a chorus from an old song shoved in but with the vocals replaced with something you'd get from sucking a helium balloon. And that, my friends, is IT. If you don't believe me, check out their videos on Youtube. You almost expect to see the singer blushing as he churns out the same identikit drivel time and time again and still getting away with it after all these years. Yes, the singer is beginning to look a bit like a wax droid nowadays, but the formula, and the songs, are still exactly the same. But HOW do Scooter get away with it? Surely someone, somewhere must have realised that this talentless band of chancers have flogged their one trick ponies to death? Surely someone who buys Scooter records must have caught on by now? Well, see, there in lies the problem. Because here's the secret; people who buy Scooter records are IDIOTS. Take a listen to some of their songs. Are you telling me there's someone with intelligence listening to that? Are you telling me that someone who actually likes MUSIC would own a Scooter record? Or have you, like me, come to the conclusion that Scooter can peddle the same garbage year in, year out, because the people who listen to it are either pilled out their empty heads or too stupid to realise they're being fooled in the first place? That people are still listening to this instantly dated trash in the year 2008 is beyond depressing. Pray the Curse of Scooter is lifted soon. See: Scooter - The Question Is What Is The Question?www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vk6r1gSYDM
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Post by RaV3R on May 9, 2008 0:02:02 GMT 2
Jump all over this CD.Dear God, what did we do to deserve Scooter? What terrible deed has modern man committed to bring on this terrible wrath; an onslaught from a band that, by all that is good and holy, should surely have been a one-hit wonder, but instead have survived and bombarded us with track after track that ALL SOUND THE SAME. Let me explain, to those blessed few who have escaped the tone-deaf dirge that is a Scooter song. Scooter are, shudder, a German techno band, and there are basically two songs that this lot have (if you don't count the unintentional hilarity of the slow "rock" song "I Was Made For Loving You Baby", where the singer walks around with a guitar, pretending he even knows what one is. He might as well be carrying a surf board). Anyway, there is the Standard Scooter Song - that being a repetitive, heavy beat with the singer basically shouting random things for three minutes. Then there is the Sampled Scooter Song (something that has seen them gain some success in the UK), and that is a repetitive, heavy beat with the singer basically shouting random things... with a chorus from an old song shoved in but with the vocals replaced with something you'd get from sucking a helium balloon. And that, my friends, is IT. If you don't believe me, check out their videos on Youtube. You almost expect to see the singer blushing as he churns out the same identikit drivel time and time again and still getting away with it after all these years. Yes, the singer is beginning to look a bit like a wax droid nowadays, but the formula, and the songs, are still exactly the same. But HOW do Scooter get away with it? Surely someone, somewhere must have realised that this talentless band of chancers have flogged their one trick ponies to death? Surely someone who buys Scooter records must have caught on by now? Well, see, there in lies the problem. Because here's the secret; people who buy Scooter records are IDIOTS. Take a listen to some of their songs. Are you telling me there's someone with intelligence listening to that? Are you telling me that someone who actually likes MUSIC would own a Scooter record? Or have you, like me, come to the conclusion that Scooter can peddle the same garbage year in, year out, because the people who listen to it are either pilled out their empty heads or too stupid to realise they're being fooled in the first place? That people are still listening to this instantly dated trash in the year 2008 is beyond depressing. Pray the Curse of Scooter is lifted soon. See: Scooter - The Question Is What Is The Question?www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vk6r1gSYDM You're just jealous
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Post by TrackAttackerUK on May 9, 2008 2:05:00 GMT 2
Well you bring up some interesting points.
'I was made for loving you' wasn't their best song I admit but he CAN play the guitar, and well. If you have ever seen them live he plays very well.
I think you'll find all dance songs have a repetitive beat. What Scooter do which most dance bands forget to do is add a refrain so it actually becomes a decent song.
Scooter were one of the first bands in the world to use HPV and it has served them well over the years. They have made sure that they haven't used too much and have had success with that as well.
I say go on then, check youtube! But if you look at the stuff they've made over the years most of it isn't half bad. Besides, it's not just the singles they make, it's the albums- and any techno fan would love the album tracks they make. It's the commercial songs that made them popular.
If 'Jumping All Over The World' is already at #2 in the UK there must be hell of a lot of idiots over here.
The idea of the lyrics needing to make sense is silly. Some of it isn't there to make sense, it's about enjoying the music. Also, some of the lyrics are riddles or have secret messages that only a few know about. For example, "Respect to the men in the ice cream van" is showing respect to the 90's acid house band 'The KLF.'
Personally, I reckon you like Scooter and you have at least 2 albums of theirs and you are afraid to admit it. I mean, who has the time to write a little essay on why they hate them. Oh you do make me laugh. Thank you for making my evening.
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Post by Benjamin Haines on May 9, 2008 5:40:47 GMT 2
I think you'll find all dance songs have a repetitive beat. Henceforth you will find that 99.9% of dance songs in existence are trash. What Scooter do which most dance bands forget to do is add a refrain so it actually becomes a decent song. Ah yes, they add another redundant gimmick in addition to the other gimmick. Quite unique, they are. Scooter were one of the first bands in the world to use HPV and it has served them well over the years. They have made sure that they haven't used too much and have had success with that as well. That's cool. Most women I know have gotten vaccines to keep themselves from ever getting HPV, but if the guys of Scooter already have it and they've found a way to use it to their advantage then more power to them. I say go on then, check youtube! But if you look at the stuff they've made over the years most of it isn't half bad. Besides, it's not just the singles they make, it's the albums- and any techno fan would love the album tracks they make. Any techno fan would spend hours on end cobbling together beats and electronic noises on their MacBooks and piecing together the same redundant horseshit as the no-talent groups they gloss over. Techno is the easiest and blandest form of music in existence. Anybody who has the mental capacity to use Windows Movie Maker efficiently has as much talent as any techno artist. It's the commercial songs that made them popular. If 'Jumping All Over The World' is already at #2 in the UK there must be hell of a lot of idiots over here. This part requires no retort. The idea of the lyrics needing to make sense is silly. Some of it isn't there to make sense, it's about enjoying the music. If the music is in any way good in the first place, why shove contrived lyrics into the mix at all? I could stitch together some bland techno garbage on my computer right now, and the fact that I could record my voice saying "silver monkey in donkey punch volcano" over the beat wouldn't make the techno any less bland or any less garbage. Also, some of the lyrics are riddles or have secret messages that only a few know about. For example, "Respect to the men in the ice cream van" is showing respect to the 90's acid house band 'The KLF.' Wow. How deep. Personally, I reckon you like Scooter and you have at least 2 albums of theirs and you are afraid to admit it. I mean, who has the time to write a little essay on why they hate them. Oh you do make me laugh. Thank you for making my evening. Well hey, your post was just about as long as his review. What does that say about your feelings toward the Curmudgeon? While I may not have the time or the interest to run both of your posts through a word count, as you can clearly see I likewise have taken the time to compose this reply to you. Don't worry though, unlike you I'll just be up front and say it's because I love you.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on May 9, 2008 11:41:43 GMT 2
The Curmudgeon's Fortress of Solitude - helping men express their feelings since 2006. Anyway, I think Benjamin said it as well as anyone, but I'll go a little further. So, what makes less sense; the idea that someone who writes negative Amazon reviews on the worst things available (you know, its a hobby, plus its the main reason people hear about this site, so its actually very important), worst including Scooter by the way, or that someone actually LOVES Scooter, owns records by them and everything, yet writes an "essay" on how bad they are and how their fans are idiots? I ask you - what's the least far-fetched notion? So you challenge me to search Youtube and discover their greatness huh? OK, I'm up for a challenge, and to be fair, I will post my findings here. Fortress Dwellers, you can watch these too, but MY challenge is to last more than 15 seconds before switching off, rubbing the tears of mocking laughter from your eyes.. OK, first up - the "deep" lyrics of.. Jigga Jigga. www.youtube.com/watch?v=33Bb7zjQhw8&feature=relatedHmmm, you know, I'm no expert on Scooter.. but that one sounds eerily familiar.. Next up, the Bob Dylan penned "Move Your Ass". www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPvsHo4NPNo&feature=relatedAnd finally, if your brains can take it, is "Behind The Cow", which may well be the best title of any song ever. Pity about the content.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_VZPeDGnyc&feature=relatedNow, again I'm no expert, but if this is from "the year of our Lord 1994", isn't that a sample from KLF in the background? As well as 2 Unlimited? Now weren't those songs around about the same time as this one? Which, as sampling goes, is really, REALLY lazy and uninspired. Fair enough sample an obscure or old song you love, but to sample massive, recent hits is just cynical. Plus, a little extra credit for me here; this song has the hilarious lyrics of "Zibbadee Zibabadee Doodah, Zibbadee Doodah Eh" (wow, how long did it take to write that?!) and then, in the equally atrocious "Maria (I Like It Loud)", he sings "skibbadee skibbadanger, I am the re-arranger." And this is on thier singles?! This is surely only the icing on the cake. I actually shudder to imagine what other terrible, terrible lyrics are on album tracks. I don't think The Fortress of Solitude can take THIS much shit on one thread. I'm in danger of destroying the Fortress - even now the walls are shaking. We're supposed to be protected from this sort of laughable nonsense - not invite it in. TrackAttacker - fair's fair, you attempted to give a good arguement, but this is one you can't win. Scooter are shit. The music is shit. The lyrics are shit. You know, one day you'll look back on this and think, "man.. that Curmudgeon was right."
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Post by TrackAttackerUK on May 9, 2008 15:29:42 GMT 2
I'm sorry I'm not very good using the quote thing so I won't bother with it.
Mr. Haines:
There are many good dance anthems out there, you just have to look. People must like that beat if people/bands like Scooter, Armin van Buurin, Tiesto and Cascada are making loads of money from it.
Are you from Europe? Because views of Dance music are not usually that strong against something here. Maybe I am wrong!?
Techno is a small part of the work they do. If you have listened to the new album you will know that they are doing Jumpstyle which has made them more popular than ever before. So I'm not sure if you can call it bland, but rather just an opinion.
I'm not a big fan of what you said about people in the UK. I know there have been a lot of problems with us in the past and still remain today. But I hardly think it has anything to do with taste in music. Whatever has gone on with the UK over seas is to do with the Government, not I.
I understand what you mean about the lyrics but the idea is just about having fun. They don't need to make sense and they challenge people to come up with nonsense crap.
That line was just an example, there are many more- and again, it's not supposed to be deep. If you prefer deep, meaningfull lyrics then maybe you should check out 'She's the Sun,' 'Marian' and 'Stripped.' These lyrics are slightly more meaningful but got them nowhere in the charts because people crave an extra dash of crazy now and again.
Mr. Curmudgeon:
Scooter use many sample from the KLF, Behind the Cow is basically What Time is Love (Scooter Remix), besides, that song didn't do that well.
The lyrics from Maria (ILIL) are also stolen haha!
Most album tracks have no lyrics and are just instrumentals of whatever style the album is based on. This album is Jumpstyle.
Again, it's just one person's opinion. You can sit there in your fortress and listen to 'follow-the-crowd' music but for people who dare to be different this music is just the ticket! I'm just a teenager living in the UK wanting to have a good time, enjoy what I listen to and not throw it around in people's faces.
People will never agree on music taste, one thing is for sure though, if people like it and listen to it, Scooter won't stop making music!
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Post by Santino R on May 9, 2008 20:51:10 GMT 2
TrackAttackerUK: "If you prefer deep, meaningfull lyrics then maybe you should check out 'Stripped.' These lyrics are slightly more meaningful but got them nowhere in the charts because people crave an extra dash of crazy now and again."
You damn moron. "Stripped" is a song written and composed by a real musician and genius Martin Lee Gore. And it was UK Top 20, peaking at #15 if you're interested. My point - you can play with your Scooter and other bullshit as much as you want, who cares. But never try to bring real musicians to this poor level of Scooter. All.
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Post by TrackAttackerUK on May 10, 2008 2:46:28 GMT 2
As this has now become personal I shall no longer post on this pointless forum as it is slightly (understatement) boring! I know stripped was another person's song but I'm trying to say why would people want a dance band to play this when their music is dance? There's no point. Scooter ahve become popular because of the fact that they dared to be different. Love them, hate them, you certainly can't ignore them. Scooter- now and forever! Good day!
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Post by Buzz on May 12, 2008 21:02:39 GMT 2
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I have used up 10 minutes of my time to read your 'reviews'....just one question 'Is there a band/group/artist that your actually like or do you intend to just post negative reviews on here?'
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Post by The Curmudgeon on May 12, 2008 23:38:40 GMT 2
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Negative reviews just now.. positive if you're lucky.
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Post by Buzz on May 12, 2008 23:39:59 GMT 2
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Can't wait (yawning emoticon)
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Post by The Curmudgeon on May 12, 2008 23:40:43 GMT 2
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I can understand why you'd be asleep. Every third word I write doesn't end in "LOL" and I don't finish every sentence with a smiley emoticon (which, by the way, aren't in the least bit tedious at all). So I can understand why my reviews are over your head. Don't worry about it. I think someone in the next thread has a little "thumbs up" emoticon though - why not join in there?
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Post by Groucho on May 12, 2008 23:49:56 GMT 2
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Quite right Curm!
Well said.
It' about time the coffee morning gang around here were given something to think about for a change!
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Post by Arthur Mnev on Jun 12, 2008 0:07:20 GMT 2
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If you have nothing useful to say, why not just shut up? If your tastes disagree with others - that does not mean others are "...IDIOTS...", "pilled out their empty heads or too stupid to realize they're being fooled in the first place?"...
Scooter did sell 14 million records, got 80 gold and platinum awards and dominated the charts for a while... so, it seems there are quite a few people that actually LIKE it.
Now in response to your burst of intelligence: if 14 million people that bought the record like it, and some that didn't pay for it like it. All of them are (according to you) IDIOTS, Empty headed, stupid ... What does it make you (Curmudgeon)?
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Jul 4, 2008 15:44:52 GMT 2
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Um... NOT empty headed and stupid?
Wasn't... that.. the point..?
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