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Post by The Curmudgeon on Jul 21, 2008 23:35:13 GMT 2
It's quite depressing that, even though this site is populated with genuine horror fans, very few threads regarding new and upcoming horror movies exist.
Oh, sure - we've all talked about the greatest horror ever, the greatest villain ever and the scariest scenes ever - but that's all strictly PAST tense. The majority of films we look forward to now are either sci-fi or spandex based.
And, really, can you blame anyone in here for that? Horror; mainstream, cinema horror, is a dying format. There are almost zero ideas being put into fright flicks now, and the basic premise for horror films now is; remake after remake after remake. And they're always shit.
The odd film squeezes through, of course, but there's been nothing that has made anyone really talk, nothing that's garnered word of mouth hype like, say, the Blair Witch Project, that made you think "I NEED to see that film." Horror films are now either rent or miss. There's nothing vital anymore.
It's a truly depressing situation, and I don't know about you, but I haven't seen anything in the pipeline that's going to change it either.
Thoughts? Am I right or simply living up to my name?
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Post by trashcanman on Jul 22, 2008 11:59:46 GMT 2
I've got one word for those who think real original horror is dead: "Inside" www.amazon.com/Inside-Unrated-Beatrice-Dalle/dp/B00125WATQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1216720048&sr=1-1You just have to step outside of America to get it. True horror should never be mainstream. I don't want the reality-television, country music-listening, "Meet the Spartans"-watching spastics telling me how sweet "Re-Animator" is or how hard they laughed at the ending to "Hostel 2". I smile to myself when my wife exclaims "That's DISGUSTING!" and flees from the room or when my coworkers cringe while I describe "I Spit On Your Grave" to them. "If you ever find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause, and reflect." -Mark Twain "Don't believe the hype." -Flavor Flav
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Jul 22, 2008 23:39:06 GMT 2
No, I think good horror can still reach the mainstream. If GOOD horror was alive and well and making money, then dross like the Wicker Man remake wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be onto our fifth Saw movie.
The original Halloween was a low budget horror movie that achieved mainstream success. Ditto Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Ditto Blair Witch. Little known cult indie horrors and foreign films are fine, but just because somethings popular with the average popcorn muncher doesn't make it bad. If anything, it will make film studio's take note and try and up their game.
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Post by trashcanman on Jul 23, 2008 21:29:35 GMT 2
Yeah, but I feel them days are gone. The 70's were a beautiful time for exploitation film, but nowadays horror and action films are mostly forced to compromise for a PG-13 rating (deemed almost 100% necessary for mainstream success these days) unless they are established franchises or directly apeing an established franchise. Flicks like "The Descent" can be huge critical successes, but the returns are modest because they just won't get the exposure of a crappy remake starring Jessica Alba. I'd like for big success for the genre, I just don't see it happening like it has in the past again.
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Jul 23, 2008 22:52:55 GMT 2
Yes....I'm BACK! Horror films are in a bad state, it's true. I liken this to the the period after the original Universal Monsters made it big (by the start of the 1940's). Then they just wanted to copy formula after formula after formula. Sure, between then and the 1970's some quality stuff would get through but all in all there was LOADS of crap similar to this: During the 70's and 80's there was better output but the 90's were so cynical that by the end of the decade so were all the potential audience members. With onset visits, leaked info (official and non-official) and instant reviews available from every angle of production...it takes something truly special to even remotely disturb our thoughts enough to be semi-scared. And let's face it; horror movies formulas have to revolve around a horrific consequence of bad judgments or the threat of the unknown. It's hard to be original if you aren't careful enough... Stop all the explanations and such which really ruin the film experience and something just might start working again. Who knows, it may take another 40 years....
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