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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 18, 2007 23:35:59 GMT 2
America - you have a lot to answer for.The British stereotype is annoying. The bowler hats, The "Oh I say" mannerisms, the tea drinking.. like any stereotype, it's completely wrong. In movies, British kids are always posh, intelligent types with shiny cheeks and perfect manners. The bad kids are the same, they just scowl a lot. From Mary Poppins to Harry Potter, this hasn't changed. I would PREFER that stereotype in place of what British children and teenagers are turning into nowadays, after being brainwashed by the hip-hop dominated MTV and being submerged by American culture. Don't get me wrong, American culture is great. I'm not taking a pop at America by any stretch of the imagination (can you imagine popular culture without it? No Prince. No Marvel or DC. No Simpsons. No.. Jeez, I could go on forever) but the creatively vapid, vulgar rap genre that has our kids looking and acting like the image above. Monkey see, monkey do and there are no bigger monkeys than the idiotic kids who are tying to look and sound like 50 Cent etc. I had a brain-numbing net "conversation" a couple of weeks ago with a sixteen year old boy from Leeds who considered himself a "Hustla". And when I mocked this I was called a "faggot-ass beyotch." And I just wish I was making this up. If you go into any of these "My Space" domains you'll see British kids doing West Side hand gestures, absolutely oblivious to how stupid they look. Of course, the character of Ali G was a spot-on piss-take of these fools, and even though he was popular it hasn't made the slightest bit of difference. I saw a kids magazine giving away a plastic necklace with the words "Free Bling" on the front. And then, of course, there's Tim Westwood. For those that don't know, Westwood is a British, 47 year old DJ who, oblivious to irony, stands in pictures with his arms folded next to expensive cars. His catchphrases (thank you, Wikipedia) include.. * "damn that's the way it's going down ..." * "Feelin' that!" * "MMMmmm..." * "Nothing but Big Things!!" * "Drop the bomb!!" * "Fall Back" * "UNDERSTAND THAT!" * "That's Mad Gangsta" * "Bow down and kiss the ring!" * "That's a big look out there!!" * "King Pin of the car game!!" * "We out - one!" (at the end of his show) Honestly, besides the latest rap cretin from Detroit, who TALKS like that? Sadly - about fifty percent of people under 20 in Britain, and it's going to get worse. Go into any chatroom in the UK and you'll see them, talking about ho's and droppin' beats and God alone knows what else. So the message from The Fortress is this - DO NOT accept it. If you see or hear any stupid kids talking like this, correct them, make them realise how moronic they sound. Stamp this virus out forever. Now, I'm off for a nice pot of tea. Pip pip.
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Post by Ben on Mar 18, 2007 23:40:07 GMT 2
I'm glad some people have finally decided they hate the "Gangsta" thing. I live in rural Iowa, where there shouldn't be anything except Hill Billy farmers in their suspenders tending corn and chasing rats (that's always our stereotype), but even the dreaded "Gangsta" look/act has found its way here.
A good example: I walk into the movie theatre a few nights ago to buy some tickets ahead of time. All around me I see fat white kids with their hats on sideways, overly baggy pants down to their knees, and shirts that are many sizes too big for them. Not to mention they're saying everything in "Gangsta" lingo.
"Yo, that mov was the shit man!" "Hell ya, it was nigga combo!"
Whatever the hell that meant, I would have been better off never hearing it.
I just don't get the whole thing. Do all these kids think that acting "Gangsta" will make them cool? Maybe the more "gangsta" you are, the more likely it is that people will suspect you're in a gang, and that makes you tough? I'm just sick of the whole thing. Even when I see some guy like Lil Jon or Nelly on TV, they just look like idiots.
I suppose since we Americans started this, it's "normal" for us to act this way. But it still doesn't change the fact that 75% of our teenage population look like complete "motha fuckas" as many describe themselves (not quite sure why these kids are proud to be referred to as a "motha fucka" by their friends.).
I've had enough of it, and I would correct someone when I hear it, except there's so many of these idiots around it wouldn't make a difference. Besides that, every once in a while you will run into a real Gangster, who won't hesitate to pull a pistol on you if you insult, or even talk to him.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 18, 2007 23:41:07 GMT 2
Ah, see, REAL "Gangsta's" I have no problem with (especially if they ever asked me), it's these Follow-The-Leader type idiots who do and say everything they hear on television.
I once had a lengthy debate with a (white) girl who called her (white) friends "nigger." Apparantly "it didn't mean anything." So I said "yeah, just go up to someone who's a little darker in the old skin section and try saying that."
Idiots.
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Mar 18, 2007 23:41:50 GMT 2
I myself, hate....hate...HATE the whitey's trying to sound so "black" that it makes 50 Cent seem like a Harvard Graduate. I've heard many comments like that. I think it's even worse here in Finland, the idiots here haven't even seen the south side of Chicago yet they "rap" and talk all "Gangsta"....but using the Finnish language sounds even WORSE as they just adapt words and put a Finnish spin on them. UGH.
Ben, you're from Iowa?!? I'm from Iowa, too! Where abouts? I used to live in Charles City. Seems like The Curmudgeon easily makes friends with corn-bred, straw hat hicks such as us! ;-)
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 18, 2007 23:42:56 GMT 2
So is it true you tell people they've got real purty mouths?
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Mar 18, 2007 23:43:33 GMT 2
I reckon' it'd be true, 'specially when they be sportin' purnt near purty mouths such as yers....
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 18, 2007 23:44:13 GMT 2
Oh I have still got it....
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Post by Ben on Mar 18, 2007 23:44:48 GMT 2
Man, how'd an Iowan ever find his way out to Finland? I am currently living in Bettendorf, but our house is up for sale. I'm moving back to Minnesota so I can be closer to my extended family.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 18, 2007 23:45:11 GMT 2
I imagine 'twas the love of a good women that brought him to Finland.
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Post by hackersanonymous on Mar 18, 2007 23:46:22 GMT 2
Oh, yes, the whitey-Gangsta is irritating in the extreme...
Now, take that irritant, and add the nasal whine only found in certain Glaswegians (I'm from Glasgow, before anyone has a go), and you have the Gangsta-ned...
Haw mate, check oot ma fuckin' ride. Is it no' fuckin' bangin'?
Aye, man, that shit's the fuckin' dugs baws..
(Translation for those with more than one brain cell follows):
Excuse me, my good friend. Might I trouble you to express your opinion of my new automobile? I really think it's quite good.
Oh, yes, my good friend. I agree with your aforestated opinion of your new automobile. It really is quite splendid.
This type of purile drivel is what now passes for spoken language in an alarmingly and depressingly high percentage of the under 20s just now.
It's enough to make you weep into your dictionary.
Toodle-pip!
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Post by hackersanonymous on Mar 18, 2007 23:47:04 GMT 2
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 18, 2007 23:47:41 GMT 2
Much as Eminem loves to rap about every aspect of his homelife, why did he never rap about ALF (check the shirt).
"Yo ALF, I saw that show where you was the star. We all like to eat pussy but you go too far."
It's got number one written all over it. Or perhaps more a whiff of a number two..
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Post by trashcanman on May 11, 2007 23:07:40 GMT 2
Allow me to extend apologies from the real "West Side" for corrupting the rest of the world with what I would have liked to think of as a localized problem. Sheesh, and to think we were afraid of SARS; hip-hop is 100 times worse in that the first thing it attacks is your brain, specifically your ability to communicate (kind of like autism). I'm guilty of using ebonics on occasion, but I do it intentionally for comedic effect and that's all it's good for unless you actually are "down with the street, dawg". British stereotypes? Adorable, but nobody (outside of Arkansas) really thinks you guys act like that. This is the country that won the Battle of Britain, gave us "Dog Soldiers" and ultimate fighter Michael Bisping, and invented heavy metal. Then there's the mighty Curmudgeon and his fortress, of course; and if that doesn't give the UK some badass cred, I don't know what will.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on May 20, 2007 21:07:18 GMT 2
Oh, using ebonics for fun is one of your God-given rights, surely? As is posturing like rappers for photographs (that stupid sideways "peace sign" is a particular favourite, but you must be scowling at the same time).
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