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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 20, 2007 23:39:03 GMT 2
 Yaaaaaay - ANOTHER new section!Yes indeed, loyal Dwellers – another new section that will crop up from time to time, and it’s not one that takes much explaining. Mirror Match – ripped from the Mortal Kombat series but instead of poorly digitised characters fighting themselves, we will be discussing characters from movies who have been played by different characters – and who was the best. Feel free to start up your own “versus” (although you must give a winner), but I’ll start the ball rolling with a few to get the discussions going. Agree, disagree – speak your mind. Round One – FIGHT! Best Batman.
Contenders – Michael Keaton, Adam West, George Clooney, Christian Bale, Lewis Wilson and Val Kilmer.First of all, George Clooney gets knocked THE fuck out from the start. His “character” is basically the same character George Clooney plays in every film (bar From Dusk ‘Till Dawn) – smug, “I know I’m handsome” and, well, basically George Clooney. Worst Batman ever. Val Kilmer mistakes “tortured” for “boring” and can sit out too. Old timer Lewis Wilson (from the 1940's cinema serials) was a pretty good Batman; solid looking, deep voiced and pretty serious, but he’s not enough to withstand the best Batman’s, of which it’s a tough call to name a winner. Michael Keaton was good; suave, wild-eyed and the first to show Batman as a troubled soul (and the only actor to survive more than one movie) until his real successor arrived – Christian Bale. Well built, handsome but with a hint of something far darker hiding behind the smile, Bale brought Batman back with a bang – great things are still to come. As good as he is, though – can he dance? Can he slide down poles hidden in his library? Can he punch sharks hanging onto his leg? Didn’t think so – only one man ever could. Step forward Adam West, the definitive Batman. Round Two – FIGHT! Best Willy Wonka
Contenders – Johnny Depp and Gene Wilder.There was always a lot of rumour going around who could play Willy Wonka, (even Marilyn Manson’s name popped up a few times. That would have been something to see) but when Depp’s name was mentioned there was a sense of – “oh.. of course!” Depp’s shiny-eyed kookiness was infectious, but the role really did belong to Wilder, not least for his tantrum at the end; “Good-day, sir! YOU LOSE!” Gene Wilder gave a far creepier performance than Depp’s camp child’s TV presenter, and the boat ride is still enough to give anyone nightmares. Wilder wins this one convincingly. And I’ll leave Round Three open, in case any of you want to suggest your own Mirror Match. Or rip apart my two opinions. Either’s good. |
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Post by Tumuli on Mar 20, 2007 23:39:48 GMT 2
Actually, I'll have to agree with you on all points. Gene Wilder seriously creeped me out in the original. Remember when he spazzed out about Charlie "contaminating" the precious space? His eyes literally erupted into flame.
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Mar 20, 2007 23:40:20 GMT 2
I'll tell you, the boat ride used to creep me out the most in WILLY WONKA. I guess it has something to do with that scene of the chicken getting it's head lobbed off taking place right above their heads....
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 20, 2007 23:43:58 GMT 2
My memory isn't what it was - did they have the boat ride in the new version?
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Mar 20, 2007 23:44:36 GMT 2
Why, yes they did! Not as thrilling as it should be.
Otherwise, you would've remembered it.
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Mar 20, 2007 23:45:09 GMT 2
Here's my "Mirror Match:"
STAR WARS: OOT vs. STAR WARS
Hands down, the ORIGINAL Original Trilogy (you know, the non-messed up version) beats out the Prequel Trilogy. Several reasons are helpful in this matter:
1) The OOT was made painstakingly by hand.
2) The stories flow together much better, unlike the choppy mess that the PT turned out to be.
3) WITHOUT the success of the OOT, there'd be no PT at all. Nor would Lucas have survived in Hollywood long enough to bring about Indian Jones.
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Mar 20, 2007 23:45:49 GMT 2
Or his trusty sidekick and half-brother, Indiana.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 20, 2007 23:48:25 GMT 2
I think there's only one person on the entire planet that would argue that point, Wolfman - and that's the living beard himself.
And if he's reading this, I have two things to say.
1. You're a dick.
2. Get Howard The Duck 2 Disc Special Edition released. You dick.
Oh, and Indian Jones would have the potential to be the best film ever.
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Post by InvisibleWolfMan on Mar 20, 2007 23:49:01 GMT 2
I could see the title for the movie now:
Indian Jones and Custard's Last Stand
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 20, 2007 23:49:43 GMT 2
Indian Jones And The Riders Of The Last Shark.
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Post by Benjamin Haines on Jan 2, 2009 19:20:53 GMT 2
Assuming we're talking strictly live-action, I'd have to give the "Best Batman" award to Christian Bale. To me, he embodies Bruce Wayne perfectly, providing what I consider the definitive live-action interpretation of the character. Don't get me wrong, I have fond memories of watching the '60s Batman show years ago, but sometimes superhero casting choices are just so perfect that the actors seem like they were born to play the roles (Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark and Christopher Reeve as Superman come immediately to mind), and Bale is that for Batman.
That is, of course, in a strictly live-action sense. I still say that the best presentation of Batman in any medium is the early '90s animated series, without question, and I'd give the best overall Batman award to Kevin Conroy for providing the definitive, unequivocal voice of the Dark Knight.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Jan 2, 2009 19:23:55 GMT 2
But Christian Bale as Batman = hilarious, awful GGGGRRRRUFFF voice. Which, I know I know, it was supposed to disguise his voice and all that but God it sounded dumb.
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Post by Benjamin Haines on Jan 2, 2009 19:27:51 GMT 2
True. That is my only real complaint with Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. Bale was obviously going for the whole 'normal voice as Bruce Wayne, edgy voice as Batman' which Kevin Conroy absolutely perfected on the animated series, but Bale clearly isn't a voice actor for a reason. Nolan's Batman films should have had Conroy dubbing the character whenever Bale donned the cowl.
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Post by trashcanman on Jan 3, 2009 23:00:45 GMT 2
Wilder by a mile on that one. Depp is the only mainstream actor that could could have played the role now, but he doesn't touch the original. I think Bale was the perfect Bruce Wayne, but I prefer Keaton as Batman because of the voice. But Conroy gets my vote just like he gets everyone else's when it comes to the ultimate Batvoice. He and Mark Hammil will be contributing their talents to the upcoming Arkham Asylum video game. Can't wait.
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