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Post by The Curmudgeon on Feb 15, 2011 0:37:07 GMT 2
There was an episode of America's Top Model a few years ago that I happened to catch a bit of (impossible not to in our house, really), where 2 black girls were talking about another black girl. They called her "Oreo", because she was black on the outside but white on the inside. Y'know, because she actually talked properly and stuff. How terribly WHITE of her, right?
So I put that down as a one-off example of unbelievable ignorance, until I heard it again on another program, and then saw something written about a black guy "acting white", because he went to college.
WHAT THE FUCK?
What kind of backwards, idiotic nonsense is that? Jesus Christ, the suffering and persecution black people have went through over the years, treated like second class citizens, dismissed as ignorant "Negroes", only for people like Martin Luther King and Malcolm X to actually have a voice and raise awareness and make these attitudes a thing of the past, make racism an ugly word for an ugly minority.. yet black people THEMSELVES are keen to separate themselves like this? That if you're not some jive talking, finger snapping stereotype you're acting WHITE? I seriously cannot get my head round that.
Anyone else come across this bullshit?
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Post by Benjamin Haines on Feb 15, 2011 9:29:40 GMT 2
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Post by trashcanman on Feb 15, 2011 9:34:09 GMT 2
Just human nature. Asians also get called "twinkies" for not being Asian enough. It all boils down to tribalism like most ignorance does. Choosing a side (that conveniently happens to be the category you fall under) and subconsciously deciding that not only is that the best possible thing to be, but anybody who falls under another grouping or chooses not to embrace the accepted behavior of that grouping is inferior or a traitor of some sort. You see the same thing with Republicans, music fans, and everything else. Republican politicians who disagree with the party line are branded RINOs, hardcore metal/punk/metal/whatever fans are posers if they listen to other kinds of music, Mexican-Americans who never learned to speak Spanish are greeted with disgust...the list goes on. Blacks are particularly aggressive about this largely due to the fact that they see themselves as an oppressed minority who need to stick together. Unfortunately, this same attitude of rejecting anything they see as "white" includes things like good grades, proper english, monogamy, and many other things conducive to getting your ass out of the ghetto that aren't sports or rapping. The typical interpretation is that the white man is keeping them down when they don't hire people who deliberately talk like 50 Cent and wear sagging pants for an office job, and makes them want to eject "white" culture even more. It's vicious fucking cycle.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Feb 21, 2011 12:59:24 GMT 2
Man, Boondocks is fucking terrifying viewing sometimes. I've never seen a TV show so near the knuckle as that. I can almost guarantee it'll never be shown over here, and a quick ebay search shows the DVDs are really quite expensive too. Damn.
Anyway, you kinda summed it up I guess, Trash, but it's still depressing as hell. But thinking about it, I guess "us white folks" are the same, pouring scorn on someone for acting "too black" or whatever.
While we're talking controversial issues here, I'll tell you something that Grinds My Gears. This strangle hold the gay community now have over political correctness, that if you don't happen to 100% agree with every single gay issue, you're an out and out homophobe.
Remember that beauty queen who was asked whether she agreed with gay marriage or not? Miss USA or something? She was asked a question by sanctimonious parasite Perez fucking Hilton on whether she agreed with gay marriage. This was her response;
"We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite marriage," said Ms Prejean, in a section of the show that has become a popular clip on YouTube.
"I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman," she continued.
"No offence to anybody out there, but that's how I was raised."
She was booed and lost the competition because of it. Perez later says..
Hilton said he had been "floored" by Ms Prejean's answer, which, he said, "alienated millions of gay and lesbian Americans, their families and their supporters".
He told ABC News: "She lost it because of that question. She was definitely the front-runner before that."
Floored? Really? I don't see anything wrong with what she said at all. I don't agree with her opinion, but fuck, why isn't SHE entitled to say what she thinks? It's not like she said gays are going to burn in hell or used any negative insults, she said she didn't believe in it. That, no offence, that's how she felt. She didn't bring up the subject, she wasn't on some Anti-Gay bandwagon, some prick put her on the spot in front of the world and she answered truthfully. And yet she was demonised for it, all because she wasn't flying some Gay Rights flag. Fuck off.
It goes further. Kings of Leon (a band I don't really like) refused to allow Glee (a show I do) to use one of their songs on the show. The creator of the show sent out an online diss, calling them "self-centred assholes." Kings of Leon hit back with ""Dear Ryan Murphy, let it go. See a therapist, get a manicure, buy a new bra. Zip your lip and focus on educating seven year-olds how to say fuck."
And guess what? That was a homophobic ATTACK!
"That's [Followill] a homophobe badly in need of some education," Murphy told celebrity blogger Perez Hilton. "I'm all for manicures, don't wear a bra. Would guess most gay dudes don't."
He added: "It's telling that Nathan can reduce a group of people to a mean-spirited cliché, in a time where young gay men are killing themselves all over the country because of hatred like this.
"That said, I would love to sit down with Nathan or any member of Kings and Leon [sic], and tell them how on Glee we actually love their music, and support their artistry… but cannot condone or even laugh at their clear disdain of gay people."
What the everloving FUCK? And wow, Perez Hilton involved again. Fancy that. In what way was this a gay attack? If anything, KoL were telling Mr Glee to stop acting like a hysterical, spoiled little bitch. There was nothing homophobic there, never mind a "clear disdain of gay people."
And KoL immediately came back with a "we never meant any offence, we aren't homophobes" response, instead of telling this guy to go eat shit and die, so in fear were they of having ANY sense of a negative confrontation with a gay guy. It's fucking unbelievable.
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Post by trashcanman on Feb 21, 2011 22:24:15 GMT 2
Yeah, the gay thing is getting real old. I'm not a fan of political correctness. Professionalism in journalism or other informative media is one thing, but hassling rock stars over non-existent homophobia or using your sexual orientation to try and scrape together pity is pathetic.
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Post by Ben on Feb 24, 2011 2:35:43 GMT 2
The pageant episode was a load of bullshit. I can't stand political correctness. You'd think high profile homosexuals like Murphy and Hilton would make it a point to NOT overreact every time someone inadvertently offended them to try to kill the whole "sensitive" stereotype associated with gay guys.
On a lighter note, I wish like hell I could find this video of Donald Trump talking to Perez Hilton, but I can't. In the video Perez makes a comment about "being a gay man" and Trump is completely taken aback (as if anyone who met Perez would think him straight). It's priceless.
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