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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 17, 2011 3:09:11 GMT 2
So Romero created a world populated with the un-dead. From that (oddly super smart and strong) first zombie in the grave yard who killed Barbara's asshole brother, to the million strong, never ending army that roam the streets in his new movies, it's fair to say Romero has created something of a zombie legacy. But his time is up. Because there is a NEW terror, a NEW horror. They're not the Living Dead. They're not the Walking Dead. They're... the Walken Dead. www.youtube.com/watch?v=giAQuLntqXYSeriously though, why isn't this a real show? |
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 17, 2011 10:29:20 GMT 2
Seriously though, why isn't this a real show? Copyright lawsuits. Funny shit, though. |
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Post by Quillford on Oct 23, 2011 20:59:24 GMT 2
Let's be honest - life need's a Christopher Walken - and there in lies the irony. Without it, Romero's modern legacy may have been taken seriously - haha, we can NOT have that. *Shakes head* So, I want to know what do we think of the MODERN Romero Fu--- I mean films? |
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 24, 2011 20:31:07 GMT 2
Romero is and shall ever be Romero. Folks who didn't like Diary of the Dead in particular, I would seriously call into question if they truly understand or even enjoy the original trilogy. Land of the Dead was weaker in some ways (Big Daddy overacts an awful lot for a zombie), but still outstanding in comparison to the competition. Survival is the weakest film in the series so far because of it's weakness of metaphor and philosophy, but still far from unwatchable.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 25, 2011 17:59:14 GMT 2
Hands up confession time - I STILL haven't seen Diary OR Survival. I've not heard great things about Survival, mind you, but I'd always read that Diary was a worthy addition to the Romero canon.
The thing is, zombie films nowadays are just that. Dead people walking around in their thousands trying to eat the flesh of the living. Even the Walking Dead, awesome as it's been, is just that. Romero's movies pack an underlying tone and social commentary that you just don't get anywhere else.
Sorry Quillguy - over ruled! Romero is still the man.
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Post by Quillford on Oct 25, 2011 19:59:47 GMT 2
*Coughs* WOAH! Woah. Woah... I never said anything about him not being THE man. I love Romero. He began zombie films, how could I not? I would be no horror fan if I did dislike him. What he did with his movies are still an amazement today. All I am saying is if his most recent additions are of the same stature as his originals or even earlier stuff. I think I adored his films until Land of the dead. First three (Night, Dawn & Day) where awesome! Just Land was so, Ugh?! What really grinded me about that film is the amount of in intelligence these living dead creatures had. They worked out that they could walk UNDER WATER without problem?  I don't think that anyone can sit here and expect that to be the norm of what Romero created. I liked Diary as it happened. It had more going for it than Land. Survival well the less I talk about it the more I can forget about it. I hope if any more additions to the series come out that they learn from the past, the really far in the past past, the stuff that started them. That's where the gems lie! Out of the remakes only TWO (Dawn & Night) have been good the other (Day) can be destroyed and there retrospective directors chewing broken shards of glass until they bleed creativity. I am tired of films being minced by re-makes. It rarely works but is done so often? Have you seen this new version of The Thing with silly bitch from Final Destination 3? They would of course base the Remake of the remake of the original (the 1982 one by John Carpenter). They couldn't possibly go of the original "The Thing From Another World". The Thing was an awful rendition of it's predecessor and quite frankly for me started a chain of really bad horror films that used gore badly. *Sigh* But anyway back to Romero! Love the guy just the latest of the series hasn't been up to par with the earlier. Horror these days are a touchy subject for me? I give them so much and I get back so little... FYI I came back from seeing Paranormal Activity 3 last night... ... ... I want a horror discussion - is horror good these days? If so is it rare that it is good or in the plentiful? Why? That sort of shit - what have you guys liked as of late horror wise?The BEST horror of the last ten years, just sayin'... |
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 25, 2011 20:34:00 GMT 2
See, Survival made sense to me because it stands to reason that after decades of mindless existence, zombie could begin evolving higher brain functions. They were originally human and it is a fact that even after suffering catastrophic damage, the brain can repair itself to an extent using processes we don't even fully grasp. It is often capable of rewiring and rerouting itself to compensate for the lost sections over time, so zombie evolution actually makes a lot of sense. Well, more sense than them coming back to life in the first place, anyways. Also, Fulci's Zombi also had underwater zombie. Apparently they have beef with the sharks down there. And why not? They don't have to breathe, apparently (not that that helps with the brain function theory). Yeah, zombie science is an imperfect art at best.
Asking about modern horror? Too many to name, honestly. There is great horror happening all over the world at all times, but only a shred of it ever sees an American theater. You really have to dig to find the gems. If you though lTROI was a killer original vamp flick, get with Chan Wook Park's "Thirst". In fact, get with every film he's ever made; he's one of the greatest and most consistently twisted directors in the world. His Vengeance Trilogy is the Star Wars of Asian revenge cinema, but without the prequels. "Inside" was phenomenally brutal, "Black Water" is the best killer croc film ever made, "REC" was so awesome they remade it a year later, "Frostbitten" is another Swedish vamp film that's pretty great, "Bereavement" is one of the best and most thought-provoking slasher films I've ever seen, "Trick r Treat" can make a legit case for being THE movie to watch on Halloween...the list goes on and on.
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Post by Quillford on Oct 26, 2011 14:36:54 GMT 2
Wow. I have some watching to do... *waves* |
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 27, 2011 2:11:29 GMT 2
Trashy is THE go-to guy for horror heads up, Quillguy. I've seen my fair share and it's my favourite genre but.. damn. Trashy got us pwned when it comes to that shit.
So wait, I'm confused. You didn't like The Thing?
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 27, 2011 20:28:37 GMT 2
I was actually wondering about that, but too, but I got caught up trying to think of really good recent horror flicks instead. A coworker of mine actually told me that the new remakequel is BETTER than Carpenter's. My reaction was a string of profanity. Everything else I've heard has been negative. I'll give it a rental, but I have a hard time believing in a better Thing than Carpenter's. As far as horror pwnage goes, I probably watch/read like 80-90% horror or horror-related films regularly. That genre really comes before all others for me. I suppose I was bound to develop some sort of specialized encyclopedia of useless knowledge along the way.
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Post by Quillford on Oct 27, 2011 23:42:18 GMT 2
Maybe I am wrong to think it - I am pretty sure I am about to hear a thousand reasons why. Let it be known before I start - I don''t hate gore.
The Thing From Another World for me was awesome. Like a lot of films from around the era. Awesome idea, great way to give it to us as viewers with the limited means they had. The unfreezing scene was tense and very gratifying for what it was. Acting was cool - although the thing was essentially a dulled down creature from the black lagoon rather than any sort of actual frightening entity. It did have a scary fucking grin on the posters!
Carpenters remake. I found it slow. So so slow. I enjoyed the acting more, it was easier to relate to the characters as they were closer to my generation. But how predictable was it all? Probably due to the fact I HAD seen the last one. but even looking at it from an unbiased angle I found it really predictable. Something that WAS good about this film is they seemed to have fair good idea about how to kick ass which isn't realistic as such for a group of scientists but meh films need action at times. The dogs - I really liked this. In part atleast. My biggest problem with The Thing was how much they relied on pure gore. I mean you can't make this shit up - this is deep down guts galore. I hadn't seen this much shit since the remake of The Fly. Did we really need it? I thought not at the time - may I be wrong. Did I hump the first one too much to give the second one a chance? I dunno A rewatch maybe in order
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Post by trashcanman on Oct 28, 2011 22:46:55 GMT 2
The Thing From Another World was pretty much the height of predictability, really. It's the same plot as every other monster movie of the era, but this one is a vegetable or something. Not that it isn't great. I love 50's sc-fi/horror, but to act like the original is some sort of cinema revolution and the remake predictable is stretching it further than it will stretch. Then there's the whole "almost completely ignored the source material" thing. I see it like I see Universal's Frankenstein. Very significant for it's time and enjoyable as a film all it's own, but a failure as a true adaptation and slightly overrated in the big picture. Carpenter's didn't rely on gore at all in my opinion, but on the tenseness and distrust of the situation. There was no huge "intelligent carrot" monster. There was a creature that could infest and become ANYONE and ANYTHING. The isolation and paranoia of not knowing who was who made that film. And I'll believe Kurt Russell as a badass at any time. He could be playing Santa Claus (now there's an idea) and I'd accept him kicking ass. The practical effect were AMAZING. And if the gore turned your stomach......well, it's called "horror" and not "happy feel-good time". Psychological horror gets kicked up a notch when it's paired with shocking brutality. That's what I call a feast for the senses. But hey, to each their own. They're both great films in their own right.
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Post by Mrs_C on Oct 30, 2011 12:15:11 GMT 2
The Thing starred Kurt Russell so that makes it automatically good. Oh! and it was directed by John Carpenter so double good. Quillford have you been smoking crack?
Also The thing relates to you more as it is nearer your generation??? Quilly I wasn't even born let alone you.......
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