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Post by trashcanman on Dec 2, 2011 8:20:24 GMT 2
Picture if you will, this on the big screen:    Three words: Conaaaaaaan iiiiinnnnn Spaaaaaaaaace!!!! Right? Pretty cool. Now think of the very last company who should attach themselves to produce a film of such a Heavy Metalish sex and violence-drenched male geek fantasy. Disney, right? Well, for whatever reason Disney is stamping this fantasy sci-fi franchise as their own and here's the first trailer. www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlvYKl1fjBIPretty cool, but that Disney logo seriously makes me wonder if this one can deliver. I mean, Disney owns a borderline monopoly on American entertainment these days, but typically they only attach their brand name to kiddie fare so I'm crossing my fingers that this one will be all it can be. Thoughts? Feelings? |
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Dec 5, 2011 23:36:46 GMT 2
Ugh, that Disney logo just does NOT sit right with me. Hmmm. I'm getting unwanted hints of Episode I style overuse of CGI, I'm getting a sense of MST3K-like "Pecs McBuffbod" characters and Zepplin it may be, but THAT Puff Daddy mix of "Kasmir" was also used in the American Godzilla movie. It's hard not to tar it with the same brush.
It could be good. It could be terrible. Or it could be another average special effects movie. Time will tell.
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Post by trashcanman on Dec 6, 2011 21:15:31 GMT 2
Oh, that is the same Kashmir rio-off? Sounds pretty sweet once you take Diddy's inept "rapping" off of it, actually. I'm going to wait and see how this one develops. I haven't read the comic so I'm not a massive fan or anything, but it looks like it could be cool if done right.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 20, 2012 20:36:31 GMT 2
Haven't seen John Carter yet, (looks like - maybe - a Blu Ray buy) but initial reports haven't been great, and I've also read it's going to cost Disney 200 million bucks because it didn't bring in what they expected.
A sequel is out of the question, then. Anyone seen this yet?
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Post by trashcanman on Mar 20, 2012 22:27:37 GMT 2
Telling you, Disney is the kiss of fucking death. Think of nearly every live action film you've ever seen or heard about that Disney attached themselves to. Princess Diaries, Snow Dogs, Santa Clause, Lizzy McGuire, Beverly Hills Chihuahua, George of the Jungle, Operation Dumbo Drop, fail, fail, fail, fail, and more fail. I've actually heard that John Carter wasn't that bad, just that nobody went to see it. Now why wouldn't somebody want to see a badass looking space epic? I'll tell you why: they saw that fucking Disney logo, remember every live action film they've seen that logo appear in front of, and knew that they were going to get some soft serve bullshit and not what they want from a movie like that. It's actually the very first failure from Pixar's own Andrew Stantun. Who new that success at making CG cartoons based mostly on animals talking to each other in stupid voices wouldn't translate to epic sci-fi?
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Mar 21, 2012 1:10:22 GMT 2
The very first thing I said when you first showed this trailer was "Ugh, that Disney logo." Kiss of death is right. When I think epic sci-fi movies, I do NOT think "Disney."
Fucking with the name was the first alarm bell for me. Why bother? What possible outcome could that have prevented? That calling it by its original title would harm its box-office? See what calling it the non-descript and fucking boring "John Carter" did for you? Question; how badly did The Adventures of Tintin: Secret of the Unicorn do? I mean, THAT is a stupid title, right? That must've.. oh, wait. Tintin made fucking billions. Pricks.
I'll admit, the trailer did nothing for me. It was a big case of "meh" for me, as it looked like everything that had been done 100 times before, only now with even more CGI than ever before. Could be good, could be bad, it's just a shame that John Carter's massive box office loss will prevent further adaptations of science fiction stuff like this.
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Post by trashcanman on Mar 21, 2012 10:56:52 GMT 2
I actually read an article about why Disney changed the name, and apparently it was because "Mars Needs Moms" bombed and they decided that the obvious problem with the film was that America hates the word "Mars". Now, "John Carter of Mars" or "Warlord of Mars" or one of the other badass titles the comic has gone by sounds like it might be some happening sci-fi. But just plain ol' "John Carter"? Not the attention grabber one would expect from something being promoted as an epic. In spite of the large amount of money that was clearly spent on all of these trailers and constant ad coverage on tv, it really did seem that Disney was destined to kill this one before it ever hit theaters. That company just does not understand film anymore. The only major successes they've had aside from Pirates of the Caribbean was when they bought Pixar and let them do whatever the fuck they want as long as they could stick their logo on it. Anything more hands-on, and disaster seems to be the word of the day.
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