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Post by The Curmudgeon on Feb 20, 2009 4:19:53 GMT 2
It's funny what happens when you float around Youtube for a while. Usually it's just full of Family Guy clips and people who can't string a fucking sentence together to save their lives, but sometimes, just sometimes, you can see something that totally grabs your attention.
Like today. Worst Case Scenario - a movie about German soldiers turning into Nazi Zombies. Yeah, you're bought into it already.
Here's the (quite frankly - racist) trailer.
Insulting trailer notwithstanding, the fact it's got Brian Yuzna directing scores points with me, and 1:57 is all kinds of bad-ass.
So, horror experts, has anyone else heard of this film? Or even seen it?
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Post by pauless on Feb 20, 2009 17:47:14 GMT 2
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Feb 20, 2009 17:52:54 GMT 2
"It is something... ELSE!"
Man I love old trailers.
And it does look very much like a remake. I'd never heard of that original film before, but even the trailer looks the same. Good call, Paul.
And as for finding it offensive - yeah, I do. I'm a fan of insults as much as the next guy, but I find hatred towards any nation, Germany and French are two of the most common "enemies", boring and more than a little insulting.
My high horses' name is Dobbin, by the way.
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Post by trashcanman on Feb 21, 2009 0:25:32 GMT 2
But, but, but I LOVE killing Nazis (in video game form). It's not racist, it's AWESOME! One of the few groups in history that it will always be politically correct to brutally murder. And if they're zombies, all the better. I've heard of this, but I'd forgotten the name. Thanks. I can't wait to see it.
If that one bugged you, peep the new Tarantino.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Feb 21, 2009 8:31:01 GMT 2
No, no, no, no, no - NAZI's; yes. Destroy, destroy, destroy.
GERMANS - not so much.
And Tarantino could finally get back on track with that one. I haven't seen Death Proof, but I straight up hated Kill Bill.
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Post by trashcanman on Feb 21, 2009 13:01:15 GMT 2
You are an Asian cinema bigot, my friend. Fear not, it's not like being a real bigot. Some folks just don't get Asian film, and KB was a 3+ hour love letter to it. I thought DP was brilliant, but there is no shortage of people who consider me a moron for that fact. They're all assholes, but they still count. Germans are no different then anybody else, I reckon. So long as they aren't heiling Hitler and stuffing minorities into ovens I see no reason to bear them enmity. But these are Nazis! Nazi zombies! The perfect storm of awesome evil.
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Post by pauless on Feb 21, 2009 18:16:54 GMT 2
I can see where our brother and droogie is coming from Trash, even though I don't entirely agree with him.
Because our mainstream comedians, sit-com writers and even pub loudmouths no longer have ethnics or cripples to aim at, they've had to start firing at our Euro neighbours. He's right when he says it's boring but it's also fucking lazy. It's also a bit little Englander insular and xenophobic - the French have been our sworn enemies for centuries and we won the war and the World Cup blah, blah etc. They can hide behind the rather dodgy fact that it's ok poking fun because the targets are all perceived as 'white' and therefore it can't be construed as racist. It is idle humour and monotonous after a while.
Do Americans rip Canadians or Mexicans? Similar thing, but you're not Islanders. It gives us even more of a siege mentality; we don't need anybody's help in any way. (!)
That said, I laugh like a drain at most kinds of stereotypes, NEVER EVER stop to think if it's PC or not and the Frogs and the Krauts hate the shit out of us - so fuck 'em!
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Post by trashcanman on Feb 22, 2009 12:21:34 GMT 2
We know little of your strange European ways, but for some reason Americans really hate the French. They even tried to rename french fries freedom fries. No joke. All three countries here poke fun at one another, but I don't think there is any genuine animosity amongst us North Americans except for the hicks who hate everyone. Bu then again, we don't have the history you guys do. We all killed the natives, grabbed everything we could and now we all get along since the USA took every shred of land that wasn't frozen tundra or barren desert and Mexico and Canada can't do a thing about it besides emigrate.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Feb 24, 2009 22:14:19 GMT 2
For the record, I watched that trailer again just to see if I had missed the point somewhat.
Nope; I can appreciate "satire" or "irony" as well as anyone, but you start branding the same Germans who lie on the beach and play football with the same Nazi Germans who killed a million fucking Jews and suddenly the joke just doesn't seem funny. The fact that the word "Hitler" is edited out of all German television, as well as pretty much any reference to Nazi-ism (if that's a word) means that even if they're trying to get over it, we seem determinded not to.
As for Kill Bill.. hmmm. See, I'd been a huge fan of Tarantino - loved True Romance, Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, From Dusk Till Dawn, Four Roo... well, maybe not, but I really did anticipate great things from KB. And I got a lead character I didn't give a crap about, worthless dialogue and pointless, "hey, look! Japanese culture!" Anime injections.
An asian cinema bigot? Well... dunno about THAT as much as I don't watch a lot of it, but loving homage or not, when you compare it to his previous works, Kill Bill is certainly Tarantino's weakest film.
On the subject of Inglorious, though - holeee SHIT that looks brilliant.
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Post by trashcanman on Feb 25, 2009 0:08:33 GMT 2
You didn't like Crouching Tiger either and that is a quintessential Asian masterpiece. Kill Bill had chanbara, wu-xia, kung-fu, and other Asian film homages and references pouring out of it's ears. If you didn't care for it, it's safe to say that Asian cinema is just not for you. Except, of course, for kaiju flicks. Everybody loves those. Turns out IG is not remake after all; it simply shares a title with the exploitation classic (why?). This means no topless nazi machine-gun girls, I suppose. I may cry.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Feb 25, 2009 3:19:31 GMT 2
Oh God, yeah - Crouching Tiger. That was a "blind buy" for me, I had read so many good things about it and loving martial arts film from Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee etc I thought I'd love it.
I'm trying reeeeeeeally hard not to sound racist here, but for the first forty five minutes I thought one of the main characters was someone else. Not saying they, ahem ahem, all look the same or anything like that but jeez.. give one of them a headband or something.
And another thing - why could everyone in the film fight like that? I can understand super heroes or mutants or whatever being able to run up trees and twirl in the air, but it just seemed like an everyday occurrence in that film, there was no explanation as to why suddenly everyone could fly.
Yeah. Not my bag at all.
Hmmm - that's surprising about IG. I'd heard from day one it was a remake. Won't make any difference to me, I suppose, 'cos I haven't seen the original. One thing - why the deliberate incorrect spelling of "bastard"?
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Post by trashcanman on Feb 25, 2009 7:51:45 GMT 2
The trailer supports the "not a remake" idea in that nothing in it has anything to do with the premise of the original besides the WWII setting. People could fly in CTHD because it's largely based on the mythology of China. It's not supposed to be real life any more than X-Men is. Everybody in the movie was a warrior becasue that's what the movie is about. The non-warriors weren't fighting anyone. Asian people often look alike to white folk. It's not racist, it's just true. We grow up looking at other white people and use different facial features to tell each other apart then Asian people do. Asian people think we all look alike.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Feb 26, 2009 2:55:46 GMT 2
Hey, like I said in my Amazon review, I fully expected to get flamed for inducting it. That was a long time ago and, truth be told, I probably wouldn't put it in there now.
See, I've never had that problem watching any Asian cinema before, mainly because they're all, you know, wearing different clothes. But a film with about 100 different people with shaved heads and identical robes? Throw me a frickin' bone here.
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Post by trashcanman on Feb 26, 2009 11:53:30 GMT 2
That was how they dressed back then. Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee's stuff is mostly all modern and focuses on realism rather than Chinese mythology. You may really love the stuff coming out of Thailand right now. Tony Jaa is like a muay-thai reincarnation of Bruce Lee with Jackie Chan's stunt ability to boot. "Ong Bak" and "The Protector" are highly recommended.
Pay no mind to the annoying music here.
And then there's "Chocolate" by the same director, but starring one amazing girl.
I think these are some current Asian films you may enjoy more since they harken back to the glory day of Lee and Chan. No wires involved, but lots of real-life bruises and broken bones.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Feb 26, 2009 17:40:33 GMT 2
JESUS.
I'd heard of Ong Bak and seen a few clips but that shit is AMAZING. And I dunno, I thought the music for the first one kinda worked. I actually preferred the first one 'cos, well, the punches from the girl didn't look like they would really hurt all that much, but the kicks and flying elbows from Jaa look like they would crush rocks.
THAT's more my sort of thing. No wires or fighting on tree branches here. It's all real, and it looks like the sort of thing that would give Spider-Man a run for his money.
I simply have to see these movies.
On a similar note, did you ever watch Monkey? It was a 70s show that's been recently remade into a movie.
Who can resist that theme tune? I used to love this show.
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